Episode #52 - Kylie Belloeuvre

Episode Transcript: 

Luc Moore (00:06.19)
Welcome to the Wing Life podcast, where we talk about wing foiling and the lifestyles of those who enjoy this great sport. Hey, Kylie, thanks for joining me today. Hey, thank you for inviting me to talk about everything with you. Talk about win. So we're just chatting and you said that you had a good day because you're on the water already. Yeah, I have been out at my home spot. So pretty lucky I got the conditions because in France, you know, it can be.

can be tricky to get the one you'd like to. It's not as if we were in Brazil or it can be pretty gusty or nothing. Okay. Whereabouts are you in France? I'm near Marseille. Do you know maybe this place? It's like the south of France and it's close to the... It's actually close to the spot where they will...

run the Olympics this summer. So, my home spot is called Carrie Lourouet. So it's very, it's really not famous at all. It's like just, it's my home spot because I started windsurfing there. So it's, a sailing club basically. And, but I really love going there, even though the spot is really hard and it's really gusty and shifty. Like it's really insanely.

shifty and, but I still love to sail there because it's like my roots and yeah, I enjoy the, the water color, the, the landscape and stuff. It's really like my place to, to wing. nice. Nice. What like shifty meaning that it's always changing directions and how gusty is it? like on the forecast, it would, it would say there will be around.

20 -25 knots and you would get from 5 to 35. wow. Okay. So it's really, it's like, you can see like, white caps in the bay because it's quite a narrow bay. It's like, I don't know, 500 meters wide, not more. And it's really, like, it's really tough because you really have to read.

Luc Moore (02:32.654)
the wind and you really have to pay attention where the gusts are coming, what direction and what strength as well to make your way, for example, back to the beach. It's really, you really have to be a good sailor. How do you find that's helped your progression in wing foiling and then going to compete in different locations? Is it good working in somewhere that's a lot harder? Yes and no. It's really, on one hand, it's really, it's like.

It helps you improve a lot in terms of, like you really have to pay attention to things which are not your gear and yourself. So you really have to look around and this is something I believe that in winging, it's still something that we're not really able to do. Like we're still really focused on ourselves, our gear. And for example, if you are winging around in some easy spots, you will...

probably notice people which are attacking or jibing without really paying attention if there's somebody coming close. So I guess that this, my home spot really taught me to, to read the wind and to also check who is around, what can I do at this moment? Because it's, it's so, it's so narrow that it's, I really have to.

look around if there are boats or if there are other wing foilers or whatever and also to come back home and to go back to the sailing club I really have to take every every gust and really not miss one because if you get into a like a patch of no wind then you can be stuck for at least 15 minutes before having another gust.

at that position. So yeah, I guess it really helped me improve in racing for that, but more when I was a windsurfer. I mean, How did you get into wind and when was the first time you kind of found it? To go back into your history a little bit. Yeah. Well, I started windsurfing at nine years old and I'm now 22. So yeah, it's been quite some time. My dad was windsurfing.

Luc Moore (04:58.51)
But like the fun way, you know, he's now 60 years old. So he is one of these people who like got to know the beginning and the boom of windsurfing. So he really got into it and he was trying to shape his boards and stuff. He was really interested into the gear and the...

the technological aspect of windsurfing and also the pleasure of just being out on the water. And so when we came back to the south of France, when I was like four or five, well, he started again to windsurf and then naturally I got into the sailing club of my hometown. And that's the way I started windsurfing and then starting.

started competing the year after or maybe two. And then I've always been competing for my whole life basically. that's so cool. How are your first up hauls and stuff? And you can, can you remember like how difficult it was to get like your first goes at that? Cause for me it was so hard. Yeah. Well, I mean, windsurfing is really tough to learn and.

It's very technical. It's way harder than winging, I guess. Winging is really technical as well, but you can easily enjoy your first sessions. If you have a little bit of water sports background, it's easier for sure. But windsurfing, I can't remember really how much time did it take me to...

Yeah, I guess you had your dad, your dad with you and stuff, which had been a pretty fun experience. I would go three times a week to the sailing club. And so I would get one training on the Wednesday afternoon, one training on the Sunday, no, Saturday afternoon. And we would go all together, even with my mom, we would, we would all, all the three others.

Luc Moore (07:20.846)
go windsurfing at the sailing club on Sundays. So their weekend, they had to spend it with me. It was a really cool experience. And to have this, you know, the fact that it was a family affair. Well, it was really nice and pushing me to go even further because it was the same passion.

And I was really lucky because it's, it's really like his main passion. Like his whole life is turned around water sports. And when I was a kid, like from 10 to 15, I think we would go to Bonaire. I don't know if you know this place. Bonaire is amazing. Yeah. Haven't been yet, but it's on my list. It's so awesome. I really love this place. And we would go to Bonaire every.

Every year in February for like 10 days when I had holidays with schools. And it was like the best place to improve because it's so easy and it's so shallow that everything is safe. And I could just improve there because there was no risk, like obvious risk. It was really easy to just...

cruise and take some hours actually just the fact of gaining hours of windsurfing would like really help me improve and when I would every time I came back from Bonaire my competitions would go better. Okay nice and how did you decide like what area to compete in at the start was there some was there an area that you were more interested in or better at? Well in France

And especially when you go into a sailing club, like a sailing club, you know, there are boats, there are windsurfers, but windsurfers are a minority actually. And so they, like a club normally brings you to the Olympic kind of formats. So I started on the techno one design.

Luc Moore (09:49.678)
It's a big board with a dagger board and a big sail as well. It's just like going upwind, going downwind, but it's really regatta. It's not speed or whatever. It's regatta like a boat would do, but you're just on a windsurf board. Then I started RS6 when I was a little bit older.

which was the Olympic windsurfing board until 2021. And so, yeah. And then it changed to IQ foiling. And then that's how I came to wing foiling because I felt like I needed something new. And it was, I saw everything, everybody going into wing foiling and I was like, whoa, this, this thing, it looks super fun and stuff.

To be really honest, the first time I tried the wing, I was on a big board without a foil and I hated it. I thought I would never do it again because I couldn't understand how to put the wing because coming from windsurfing, I wanted to put it like vertically. Vertical. Yeah. So I was like, no, I'm never going to do this again. I'm fed up with this. Bye. And in the end,

I started wing foiling and didn't, didn't windsurf again. Well, only one hour in two or three years now. So I guess don't tell your dad that. No, but my dad is winging with me. is he now with you too? Okay, good. He's not windsurfing anymore. He's only winging with me. And this afternoon he was with me as well. that's exciting. Nice. How did you find like...

the progression in winging, did you find it accelerated quicker? Like your first foil flights, how were they like or what were they like? Well, it took me, I think one session to learn how to fly. Like the first time I only took a big board and the wing, but it was like really a long time ago and a long time before I even started to believe in two wing foiling.

Luc Moore (12:15.406)
So my real first session when I took a board with a foil, I guess it took me like one hour to fly because at the beginning I was struggling to position the wing and stuff, but in the end I knew how to windsurf on a foil. Like I had done some IQ foiling a little bit and stuff, so I was quite comfortable with the foiling thing.

But it was just, it's hard to, from my side, coming from windsurfing, it was hard to position myself without foot straps. And you know, when we started, we would all take some very big gear, like a 120 liter board, 180, no, 1 ,080, no, 1 ,800.

Like an 1800, which is massive. It's really big and a six meter wing. And in the end it was okay because my home squad is so gusty that when a gust was coming, I was like, okay, now I'm, I will go, I will go. And in the end I managed to fly. So I was really excited with that because it's really not the same as in windsurfing because.

Flying in winging is really like you are so much more above the board. Like you really feel like flying as in windsurfing. You're really close to the gear and attached and it's really not the same feeling, I guess. Well, that's the way I feel actually. But, and so yeah, but in the end.

I think this time I think I only flew on one tack, like only starboard I think because I'm goofy. It's so hard. I'm not snowboarding and I'm not really good at surfing so I really didn't know that it would be so much important.

Luc Moore (14:40.046)
Like it really does matter a lot in the end. Like your, your abilities are really like related to that. Actually. It's really, it's really bizarre in the end. Yeah. You can do a lot of cross training for that, like snowboarding or, yeah, all of those kinds of aspects of things could help relate. Cause I'm a regular foot rider. So I ride left foot forward so I can surf bigger.

swell on my left foot, but if you put the right leg in front, it's like I'm learning all over again. Like it's, yeah, it's so difficult. I guess it's good to train. Yeah, of course. I mean, I'm training this kind of things now, two years later after I started. So yeah, it's really, it's really weird. And it wasn't something, I mean, it was pretty new at the time. Well, I'm not one of the first because I started in 2021. I've.

I think, yeah, 2021, like summer 2021. So clearly the sport was already pretty consistent. But still, it was still pretty new to everyone. Like you would have some writers like, I guess, most of the girls on the tour already...

already winged at that time. I mean, if you ask somebody in the sailing club and stuff, it's pretty new to them still. So, so yeah, it was hard to find somebody to give me some advice about how I was supposed to actually jive because coming from windsurfing, I would go frontside both way, you know, like I didn't expect it to change something. Yeah, it's great. It's.

I was so surprised of how on like, yeah, how surf style you needed to be. And then even all you needed to do is move your head. Like just moving your head initiated the turn. I was like, whoa. When surfing was really different, you would like the mast would change a lot in the end without having a mast. It's really not the same. But yeah, like coming from racing, the position is pretty the same in the end. Like I was.

Luc Moore (17:05.678)
easily able to race on a wing board because it was, I don't know, the position was pretty much the same and I wasn't scared of speed. Like I was able to push the thing pretty much at the beginning and then everybody improved and so it became harder. Like how, what kind of speeds were you hitting like windsurf racing? I have absolutely no idea. Yeah. Because.

But fast, right? Not really, because the RS6, which actually was Neil Pride, for like the RS6 is a Neil Pride board. So I basically rode Neil Pride all my life. Yeah, they're a good company. Yeah. I mean, and so this Olympic board, it's very heavy. Like every, and it's like you would...

You have only one sail. So the board was like 255 liters or something like that. So a boat, basically the, the, the fin was 60, 60 centimeters long. So really long as well. It's like, it's very big and the sail was 8 .5. So.

Five knots or 25 or 30, I would still be in eight five. So I knew how to use the, the fact of being overpowered because I have always been overpowered. And so that's something that really helped. Five and 30 knots. Yeah. Like 30, 30 knots in the gusts. Like we would, we, we would race until 25.

And max gets to 30. But it did not happen that often to me. Well, maybe in Garda Lake, but. Like, how did you enter into competition? I guess in the GWA, when did you feel that you kind of, was that always a goal or was that something that you just came across? Well, I'm pretty competitive. So when I, like my transition to wing foiling was actually, well, it's not very common because.

Luc Moore (19:27.726)
the, I actually, I started, no, let's say I was doing IQ foiling and I wasn't very happy with the way it was turning out because you really have to be heavy to perform and because the front wing of the foil is 900 square meters, no square centimeters.

And so it's really big, like 900 for a girl having an 8 .0 as a sale. It's really, everything's massive. And so for me, it was hard to deal with everything, especially because to be in Olympic windsurfing, you really have to have time. Actually, you really have to dedicate yourself to this kind of sport because you, you have to train with the French Federation and everything.

And I am a student as well at the same time. And my studies are not close to the sea. Like I'm studying in Lyon, which is in the middle of the France somehow. And Marseille is in the South. And so it was hard to give like, to get really into training. And I was.

I'm a very close friend of Matisse Guillot. Maybe you know his name. He's the, he's been twice world champion in racing, in wing foiling. And yeah, I think I've heard. Yeah. So we, we have the same story. Basically we come from Olympic windsurfing and I saw him transitioning to, to wing foiling because he was, he really wanted to go into this way because he felt like.

He needed some more fun in his career. And so I saw him having so much fun. He was doing like the first GWA LeCat, like the first Mondial du Grand. And yeah, it looked like it was really fun. And I felt unhappy in my position and I was like, no way, I'm going, I'm going with him. That's it, I'm going. And so I didn't know how to wing foil at that time.

Luc Moore (21:48.878)
But I knew I wanted to compete and I was like, okay, so I'm quitting IQ foiling. I'm selling everything. I'm buying wing foiling gear and let's get into it. So that's how it was. Not very common because I knew I wanted to immediately compete. So I mean, in six months I did my first Mondial de Vente. So yeah, it was pretty...

short call. So you guys, so you were using an eight meter wing? Like that's just standard. No. Okay. Okay. So for winging, I guess my first one was a four, two, and I still had the, so when I started, yeah, no, I had a six meter. Then I got a four, two, which was like, I could use it in every type of condition because the.

My front wing was still an 1800. So it was so big that I could wing in 10 knots with a 4 .2. It was pretty insane. And then I changed, I took a 900 and then a 700 the week before the competition. And so I had to learn pretty fast and it was super exciting to, to compete for the first time because you know, I was around this very famous athletes. I mean,

Winged foilers at the beginning, they were really like stars, you know, like, I mean, Paola, Titoin, all these kinds of persons, they were super famous already. And I was like, who am I? Like, okay, I'm going to race with you. It's looking funny. So yeah, I tried and it was super exciting. I mean, I tried freestyle competitions for the first time because I'm...

really not coming from freestyle. I mean, I'm really a beginner to this kind of formats. But for the racing part, I mean, I knew how to race. I hadn't trained in racing for quite some time, like eight months or something, but I still knew how to do it. And I could, I saw that I couldn't make it, you know, I could be pretty close to the...

Luc Moore (24:13.486)
to some good positions. So I got really excited by this and, and I was, yeah, I know I was pretty fast at the time because I was not, I wasn't scared at all to push on the foil because it was still like a 700 and, and it was like pretty stable, you know, like 500 starts to be pretty tricky, but seven, a seven is still okay. And so, yeah, at that time I was using.

some gear I bought and I was pretty confident on my gear. I knew, I mean, I was just pushing it so it was really nice. And yeah, I had a really fun first experience because yeah, I was always super fast on the first reaching and then maneuvers would make me fall and I was not very comfortable yet. But I mean, of course I had only been wind -foiling for six months and...

Only maybe two or three months on a 900 and one week on a seven. So, wow. Yeah. You did pretty well then considering like you came what? Fifth in 2022 for surf slalom, surf freestyle, and then IWS, a wing fall racing as well. So that's like, those are good finishes for your first year. Yeah, I was pretty happy. And like it really, I mean,

I was lucky that the girls were not so many at the time. So, I mean, you could get a cool ranking pretty easily if you were consistent in your rankings. Like if I was doing five, five, four, it was pretty okay. So no, but I was really excited to see more because I mean, the first season it's always like,

you're discovering the thing and you're asking yourself if you're even liking it because it's so new and so different than what I've known. I had to evaluate as well if this was something I was accepting to dedicate myself into.

Luc Moore (26:35.118)
The racing component better. Did you like the freestyle component better? You think in waves, like which do you find so far after being in it now for a few years? Like, which do you prefer the most? My preference is obviously surf, free fly, Slalom, changed the name. So free fly Slalom now. Okay. And because that's, let's say it's something that I've never known.

but it's pretty similar to something that I have always known. So it's something new to me, so more exciting and funnier. But it's something that I was...

Okay, like I still have to work on it, of course, but I could get some, like, I was pretty easy on to get, it was pretty easy to me to get this, some correct speed and stuff and correct starts as well, because that's what I always did in my life. So, I mean, that's the perfect compromise for me because it's, yeah, it's very, I really enjoyed this format. It's really fun.

Like it's my best memory in this format is in, is this year in Brazil, in Conbuco, it was pretty tough because in one minute and 30 seconds we would do like nine, we would have nine marks to go around. So imagine nine marks in like one minute, 30, it's really insane. But it was so like,

Even from the beach, looking at the races of the boys, it was really captivating. You would have to watch it. It was really spectacular because everything was close by. You would wait for your race on the beach. It's Brazil, so you're in your bikini enjoying the life. And then, my God, in three minutes, I'm out and zigzagging in the bay.

Luc Moore (28:47.022)
So no, it was really, really fun. Like I really had fun on this one and it was really technical. And I guess that's how we want to, I believe that's how JWA wants to push the format because that's like, that's how, that's how we would get the, the most technical aspect from it. And so, yeah, I really enjoyed this one.

For freestyle it's really new to me. I really come from nothing. I never freestyled in anything. I haven't done gymnastics, I haven't done wakeboarding freestyling, I haven't done snowboarding, I haven't done... I knew how to ski and I knew how to ride and I knew how to...

ride some waves and windsurfing, but just, you know, very basic level. I was just having fun. So the freestyle part is really my fun part. It's just my, and challenging part as well, because it's like pushing myself to do some things that I never done before. And it's quite hard for me to go over some fears and stuff because I'm really someone that thinks a lot.

Like I'm very pragmatic. I like to evaluate. Break things down. Yeah, exactly. And so that's nice because it helps me to think less actually. It's like, go for it. And so of course I'm not really, like I'm not top writer of freestyle.

But I really enjoy to even just watch it and you know, feeling that the level is increasing and stuff. Well, it's hard for me to keep up with the level, but still it's, I love to challenge and to challenge myself and to go for it, to try to learn these things and try to understand where am I like in, you know, and like, where's my head at the moment that I'm doing whatever.

Luc Moore (31:07.054)
which trick I'm doing, but it's something that I never thought about before. Like it's really new to me. So it's really exciting to try something new and I really enjoy having this fun part in my competition in the end. It's like really the, yeah, the, the fun part, the, I don't know how to say it in French. We would say recreation. It's like the, you know, the

exactly. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's you're going to work and then you have your thing that you're one dedicated to and then you go have your ice cream and that happens to be that you can play around freestyling and trying stuff. What moves are you currently working on and have you seen a tie into that? Like, has it helped you become more aware of yourself for racing? The freestyle aspect? I believe yes, because...

We race pretty fast now. I mean, for sure the guys are really faster than us for the moment, but we're still pretty fast. And like, it's like you really have to know where yourself is from, how you are positioned, like how you're going into the curve for a jive or for attack or...

to make the best turn and how to get over a little... If you start to feel like the foil is wobbling and you're soon to be crashing, you really have... Having this kind of feedback from your freestyle mentality.

Then you can sometimes get back to something better. Like you can avoid a crash thanks to this kind of things, I guess. And for now I'm training, like I have been training racing a lot this past weeks. And so I have missed a couple of windy sessions where I could have trained more freestyle. So for now I'm.

Luc Moore (33:29.646)
like kind of redoing the tricks I already knew because I have to still make them work. And that's true. Yeah. Because I mean, it's really so new that I really have to always do them because otherwise I can really forget them. So then I tried the backflip kind of like this summer and.

I tried, actually the first time I tried was more than a year ago in Brazil, in Geri, so in 2022. And then I completely stopped because winter in France, you don't get so many times the occasion to try. So then we went to Poço and then to Fuerte and I saw the girls all sending them and I was like, okay, I have to do that.

again because otherwise I'm screwed. So I tried again and never landed though. So I'm still working on that, but it's really like at this time of the year in France, it's pretty hard to get everything together to make it because you know, you have to have a little ramp, but you still have to not have 40 knots and...

And my, like the South of France with the Mistral, it can be really, which is comparable to Tramontana from Grissan and stuff. Like it's really on of like, it's whether you have 35 to 40 knots, whether you have five knots or, or 10 or. So yeah, it's pretty hard to have the opportunity to train.

consistently in freestyle if you're not abroad. And I am a student, so I cannot really move around like I would like to to improve. So, yeah, I have to, but I'm happy to do to be able to do everything. I mean, that's how my balance works. So, yeah. Yeah, that's true. You can slowly practice in all your different disciplines and have fun and relax in one and work on another and.

Luc Moore (35:54.606)
How was even the start of a backflip, like how was, like you're still working on them. What do you think is going to help you land one? Like, where are you at now?

For now, it's really... My progression is really hectic. It's going up, it's going down. It's really... Well, it's not linear at all. Okay. Fair enough. My best attempts were when you feel like... You shouldn't feel the board touching the...

Like if you want to have the sufficient pop, you have to focus at first on your pop with like, you have to be high enough not to touch the ramp because otherwise you're stuck. Well, you will not go high enough. You will not have the turn already engaged. Like you will have to really...

do it yourself and as I'm not even backflipping on a trampoline, I cannot really initiate the rotation myself. So I was like, okay, I'm going. So the best attempts were like, if you're not touching the water and just sending it and bringing like having like, you know, my advice are really not good. So don't take them. But I mean, that's everybody's listening. So that's.

That's how we did it. So I was pretty close to my wing actually, because I felt like if you are close enough, then when you're coming back, well, you can extend. And so my best attempts, I landed on my belly. So let's say it's not so, so far, but... No, you're getting there. Yeah. Getting there. But still I have to really work on my fear. Like it's...

Luc Moore (38:01.87)
Like to prepare, to mentally be prepared to send it, it takes me at least 45 minutes on the water. So, and I really have to go. And if nobody bugging you, like how do you mentally prepare for that? Did you just go off and ride by yourself or is your dad saying, hey, like send it now? Like what do you find helps you the most? The first time I tried it in Geri, I told my dad like, hey, stay here. Like stay here. Okay. And, but we were super lucky because we had the,

the very typical gerry conditions, like, you know, with the wave coming, like circling around the, well, the rocks, I don't know, like, I don't really know what is there, but like, it's really coming around the bay. And so we really had this ramp, like, it was a real ramp. And so I could send it and I was with Mathis, which was...

helping me as well, like he was, he already had told me what to do and what not to do. And so I wasn't sending it. I was just, you know, riding around, but I knew I wanted to do it. So I told my dad, okay, stay here.

like stop everything, stay here, I'm coming back. I came back and just sent it and it was way easier to, you know, because in my head I'm like, okay, if I die, well, he will be there. Okay, so that's true. Safety's put in place. All right, we got structures. We're good. Let's go. Or if I hurt myself, he will be there. I will get help. It's okay. So yeah.

Yeah, you know, I have to work on fears and I also have to work on letting go and yeah, but that's funny because the people from Winged Filing, they're so different from that. I mean, they're all so, so chill. They're just like living life, you know? And so my friend V from Nail Pride in JP as well, and Bowen that you had on the podcast quite recently, they always,

Luc Moore (40:15.406)
I'm joking about that because it's written on my face that I'm not a writer, you know? And so they were like, okay, I'm going to teach you how to be a writer. Okay. Because Vinnie has this story where he has a good cat and a bad cat. Well, he had a cat which was super tidy, super respectful that wouldn't climb on the couch and would really stay in a...

really nice cat position. And then he got another cat, which was really like a naughty cat, which would do nothing good, like would really be not annoying, but a funny cat, you know? And so in his mind, Bowen is the naughty cat and I'm the good cat. And so as the bad cat told the good cat to, well, taught the good cat to

be a little bit more chill. He thought that would be taught me to be more of a writer. That's pretty good. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. All right. She's working. So you would think of it like the typical racer versus the typical freestyle. Exactly. It would be like an aeronautic engineer versus like something else. Like very, very... All right. Cool. That makes sense.

Yeah, no. I don't know, man. Those speeds foiling, like there's a friend of mine, he windsurf foils on Vancouver Island and I tried to keep up with him on my kit and like my wingfoil kit. It's, I don't know, it's pretty scary. Like I'm always having to micro adjust to see and I have a hard time judging depth. It's always on the edge, yeah. Like, do you find you have a hard time judging how high you are off the water when you're accelerating and getting more speed or is that something you just get used to? Yeah, it's really...

At the beginning it was my real struggle. I would always get catapulted because I would go just a little bit too high and then the foil would come out of the water and I would just go, yeah, you know, like the front crash. You see that one hurting the neck because you go full face into the water. Well, I would always get this done. Okay. Are you strapped in as well? Sorry.

Luc Moore (42:43.918)
You're strapped in for racing, right? Yeah. So how's that wipe out then full speed breaching and then falling forward? Is that okay on the knees, ankles and stuff? Or is it me and like... Because I wasn't strapped in, so... On my side, it's pretty okay. But I guess it depends how stiff you can be from your ankles and knees. I mean...

I'm pretty flexible, so it's, well, not from everywhere, but I mean, ankles and knees are okay. And yeah, I feel like you don't get so stuck in the foot straps. I mean, racing, I make them pretty wide so that when I go, like when the crash is already coming and you cannot stop it anymore, you will just like...

pop out of the foot straps and just go away. And as well, I'm not using a leash because it's pretty dangerous to have a leash, like a board leash if you crash in this kind of positions. Because if you crash forward, you know this kind of crash when you are going a little bit downwind with some speed. Then if the foils come out of the water, then you will just slide like...

You will be like the wing was, will still have some power and you will get it. You will get it ejected super far from the board. And so if you are attached to it, then if you, when yourself goes into the water, then the board can really easily come back into straight into your face or arm, whatever. And if it comes from the end, then it comes from the. The.

the trailing edge of the, of the phone. and that's pretty sharp. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. You really have to avoid this kind of situation. So yeah, that's why most of the writers, I mean, basically everyone is writing without the board leash to avoid. And as well, if you crash with someone.

Luc Moore (45:07.374)
It's even worse if you have it because you can really get into troubles. Like you can really tangle yourself. So are you able to, cause those boards kind of take off, don't they on their own? Like what happens if you lose one mid race? Are you able to catch up to the board or how does that work? I'm thinking if it already happened to me during a race, during the defy, it happened to me to lose it. But.

The Defi, the wind is so strong that you easily have some power in the wing and you know, make yourself drift pretty fast. Like even fly like in the, at the Defi, the Tramontana is so strong that you would get up like just with the wing and yourself in the water, you would get up to your hips. So you would go really fast to get the board. And - Okay, okay. All right. It's like body dragging, kiting kind of thing.

Yeah. Yeah. This kind of thing. Okay. And in GWA you, you're pretty like the crashes. Well, it never happened to me to lose my board in this kind of races because you're always, when you crash, most likely you're in a maneuver. So you crash inside the curve and you have the board around, if not around your, like if you.

can even have the foot into the foot strap. So yeah, it's okay. And in IWSA though, I think you can have some struggles with that during the downwind sections, but never happened to me because we never had some really strong wind in IWSA. So. I lost mine last year for the first time. I was giving my mom a lesson and it was like 14 knots. I was like, I don't need my leash, whatever. It's fine. It's fine.

So then I fell, my wing somehow went over top, like it went over and it pushed the board forward. And then it's like a slow motion movie. You're just trying to swim towards it. And then it just goes and goes and it's gone. I see exactly what you mean. I really have this feeling like two weeks ago it happened to me in the waves and like three days ago I was training with the French national team on racing. we saw that in your Instagram. Yeah, we talked about that too. That'd be fun. It was pretty exciting.

Luc Moore (47:33.966)
And so I lost my board during one of the downwinds and it was some Mistral and in Marseille Mistral brings waves. And so the waves were pretty, well, the swell was pretty big. And so it was pushing my board away and I was struggling to put my wing in the right position to lift myself. Like it was, you know, it had turned, but the wind was super strong, like 35 knots. No, maybe I'm exaggerating. 30 maybe.

And I was really struggling to flip the wing in the being myself in the water. So I had like two, two to three minutes alone without the board. And in the end I managed to catch up. But I mean, if the, if I had been closer to the beach, I would have gotten into struggles, I guess. Yeah. So the wing actually, what happens if you're in lighter wind? Like, are you able, do you have that technique mastered that it can kind of lift you up and.

So your body dragging with it in essence. Well, if the wind's lighter, I put the leading edge of the wing, like the, you know, the big one, like the leading edge. I was like, am I saying the correct word? We're good. Yeah. You just grab, I just grab my back handle. Like I, I flip the wing vertical.

with the leading edge in the water and I drag myself. like that. Like that. that's interesting. Or if it's really really light. It's almost like this or whatever. This is your leading edge on the bottom and then you just use it as a sail. But it's floating and it pulls you. Yeah, like. Interesting. This is the leading edge and I will do like that and. okay. Because I was, that's actually a really, really good idea. Yeah, it's sometimes easier.

Yeah, okay. No, because I was like trying to find ways to catch that thing as well. But I hadn't thought of that one before. Okay. How do you find that's how do you find like, no, it's okay. How do you find traveling with the tour? Like, is there a favorite spot that you've been to? And because that's kind of a cool opportunity, right? To see different locations and cultures. And how's that for other people or other women that are thinking that maybe they should try to compete as well?

Luc Moore (50:02.254)
Well, it's really something new. I've been competing my whole life, but competing to this variety of landscapes, countries and stuff, it's really, really new. It never happened to me before to go compete in Brazil or in Abu Dhabi or whatever.

And it's really exciting to see some new countries and especially new spots because let's be honest, when we go for competitions, it's, you rarely have the time to visit and to get to know the really local culture. Like you will get the food, you will get the, like the normal experience, but if you would like to go deeper into details.

details, you will have to stay more like after the competition or whatever. But I mean, I think that's also related to the fact that I cannot move for a long period of time. I mean, cause you're in school. Yeah. I have to keep up with engineering and so I have to, yeah, you know, I cannot move around like I would like to.

Well, I like to be an engineer. So I mean, at least I'll do both. It's a balance. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, no, it's really like I've stayed three weeks in Brazil this year, like in 2023. And it was really a magical experience, you know, and Brazil is so enjoyable. Like it's so relaxed.

relax. It's like, it's really crazy. Like, I, it's really special. It's something that you would never get to know somewhere else, I guess. Well, I never, I never felt this way somewhere else. And you're just like enjoying life and, and writing in this amazing locations.

Luc Moore (52:29.102)
So yeah, it's really, I'm really lucky to have the opportunity to do that because it's really like when I'm talking to people at school, they are so amazed that I get to travel around so much because you know, they're at school every day and every like from eight to six in the evening, they're like sitting and trying to...

take advantage from the classes we get, but I got to do both and it's really, well, I'm really lucky for that. I'm really appreciating that I can, that everybody accept that I do both because you know, my school have to accept it, but Neil Thread and JP also have to accept it to make me into the team. And I'm really grateful that.

this is something they understand and that they appreciate because I mean, I can also get some more, like as I get more into the studies, I'm understanding more and more of the gear and the science. I was just going to say that. Yeah. So that's really interesting for me, but I guess I can use it for some feedback and testing.

stuff. So yeah, I'm really grateful that all the actors and even my family, you know, they let me do both because some families, especially where in the place where I live, it's really study orientated. And so yeah, I really feel like I'm lucky to get to do both because it's really not so common in the end.

Yeah, that's true. Actually, you're like, you either go right into that, but there's so many ties, tie ins and working with the team and bringing that forward. I think that's a, that's a pretty cool opportunity. How did you meet JP and how did you get into Starboard? Like how did that kind of conversation start for you to get sponsored? I was, so I was already on the tour.

Luc Moore (54:51.982)
And Nill Pred and JP, you know, they started their like winging range in 2023, beginning of last year. So for them, they needed some writers to, you know, really promote the gear because it's like we had to come into the market and do it good. So...

They were looking for some writers who already had some experience in the tour and in the competitions. And so they already had Vinny because Vinny always, well, I don't know if he always wrote for JP, but he was a stand -up paddleboard writer for them before. And then he came into wing foiling as well and stuff.

So I got the experience to, and the opportunity to meet Vinnie, on tour. And then he, he introduced me to Neil pride at the time they were looking for the, for a girl to represent them. And so I was, I was writing for Takun before. And then when I got the.

just the fact that Neil Pride contacted me, it was really, like, I remember I was actually attending my class of physics and I was like, whoa, did Neil Pride just message me? And I was like - Did I just get called up to the big leagues? I know, that was like, I mean, I come from windsurfing, so imagine how it felt. I mean - Yeah, exactly. That's a big name. It was really something I always, like my -

My wave riding gear that I used for fun for quite some years, it's a Neil Pride Combat and a freestyle wave JP. So it was like, really, you know? Yeah, it was really insane. I was like, whoa, what's happening? And so I was telling myself like the little windsurfer, like the little girl windsurfer would be proud to.

Luc Moore (57:20.494)
who presented the scholars, like really. So I'm really excited to be part of the story because I mean, and it's even better because I started with them. I started their kind of career of wing foiling. You know, I was like, we were the first team. So for Neil Pryde at least, not for JP, but for Neil Pryde. So it was really something. And then,

when I got to know all the team in Cape Town, well, already going to Cape Town for the team, like for the annual shooting and stuff, it was really new to me as well. yeah. That's true. You would get to do that, wouldn't you? Yeah. I was like, whoa, what's happening? Like it went on so fast. And I was like, whoa, is this the writer life? Cause I want it as well.

So I got to know all the team and they're all super nice and super friendly. And they really made me comfortable pretty quickly because I spent 14 days in Cape Town, well in South Africa. And in the end, I felt like I knew them before.

Like it was really, they're really easygoing and I feel like the, it was really interesting as well because there were the, like the marketing team, but also the development team. So it was really interesting to get to know everyone because when you get into a company, you have to know who to talk to, you know, like who's your...

Who's your boss? Who's working for the wings? Who's working for the boards for the foils? And it was really amazing to get to know all of these people. Well, more or less everybody because some couldn't come but still like I had everyone like in mind and and I could already discuss the gear and and It was very interesting to know

Luc Moore (59:40.014)
why they chose to develop this kind of shape or this kind of aspect. And so it was really interesting and especially as I'm going into engineering, it was, you know, a combination of both, like the perfect match in the end. Yeah, that's true. that's so cool. And then you kind of start kind of following your family's heritage a little bit, right? Cause your dad got to see the start.

of that, but then you're actively engaged in this. So that's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool. And my dad's an engineer as well. Well, I'm not an engineer yet. I hope I can get there. And I mean, and so he's an engineer and he really have this technical aspect of the gear. And so, you know, my school is teaching me how to be.

organize and how to think scientifically and blah blah blah. And my dad would help me to create the link between winging and you know with the mechanics of the gear. And then I got the opportunity to meet Niels Rosenbald which is the

the designer of Neil's Neil Pride's wing. So I got to, to know him and to discuss with him about development. And it was really fascinating because it's all coming together, you know? that's cool. Yeah, that's really cool. And the product managers were here as well. So it was really nice to know, to just get to know the range.

easily as well because I was new to the range as well and I had to know the gear and and to learn it from the use and it was super interesting to come back ashore and discuss I felt that and that means that we pushed more on this particular scientific aspect like I don't know but like

Luc Moore (01:01:59.118)
The canopy is stiffer here to make it go faster or it's a little bit loosen up close to the tips because we want to do like a windsurfing, you know, when the windsurf sail is opening and twisting at the end. And so, yeah, it was really, really, really interesting. And especially being, I mean, already being in South Africa for my first time was already an insane experience.

I don't know. So it was like, yeah, everything was just coming all together, you know. Let's talk South Africa, because that's on another one on my list, too. Like, what was your what were your favorite aspects? Like, how was the food? How are the places to stay? Like, what did all those spots line up? OK, well, we were staying in Langebun, which is like a lagoon. I guess it's if I remember good, it's like one hour and 30 minutes.

drive from Cape Town. So this place is pretty calm and so it's really relaxing. It's like they say it's a holiday town. Like people go there like for the yeah for weekends and stuff. And so the lagoon is pretty nice because you can go around and wing around. And actually the first day I

I arrived pretty late in the day, so the next morning when we went out, it was already breathtaking because I was trying the gear and it was racing. So I was pretty comfortable. I was not struggling too much because pushing on the foil is still something I can do, whatever the foil is. I mean...

You know, if the foil is very particular, then no, but, so I got to know the gear this way and we were going from Langebaan and there is this island in the middle of the lagoon. Well, at the beginning of the lagoon and there, there are some, seals. Great white sharks? No, no, not some seals.

Luc Moore (01:04:26.382)
And so I was like, my God, they're swimming everywhere. What is that? What is this blackhead that is coming out from the water? That's so cool, right? Yeah, it's really nice. And they were like so close to us. And so then we were like, we had a boat filming because we were producing the video for the foil, like the Swift Carbon. And we were...

going super fast with Vinnie and so we were the two of us in the boat with Philip, one of the marketing team, which is like the boss of the marketing team. And I guess, I can't remember, I guess it was Adam, the filmmaker, Alva Movie, I guess, if I'm correct. And...

So he's a windsurfer as well and he knows pretty well, like he's really into it. And we were so we were riding close to a hill, which is like the opposite of Langebaan. Like the Langebaan is here, the hill is here, the island is in the middle. And then the lagoon goes up there, which like the lagoon is really nice and shallow there. You have Shark Bay and then you have Crow Bay.

So we were riding towards Crawl Bay and then we saw like thousands of birds riding, going around, but you know, so low, like they were literally above the water and sometimes even into the water. And we would just follow them and it was so crazy to, you know, race with nature.

It was like we were originally racing with the birds. It was crazy. And so for my first time there, first session, it was like really mind blowing. I was just chasing birds. It feels weird and sounds weird maybe, but it was like, they were everywhere. It was the sky. It was.

Luc Moore (01:06:49.07)
full of birds and it was just crazy to wing with them and they would sink and like, no, dive into the water and come out. And I must admit that I hit one, but he dove, do we say he dove? He dove right in front of me and then I hit him. And so I'm very sorry. I want to apologize and I still feel bad about it.

And especially because Vinny is always talking about it. And so, yeah, but it was, I mean, crazy experience, like first session and already seeing all of this. Yeah, that's pretty special. Yeah. It really felt special. And so we have beautiful pictures, like beautiful shots, beautiful. I guess we have pictures, but I think we also have videos about it and it's like.

really insane because we're so close. Like even the boat is into this mass of birds everywhere. Like it's really, yeah, it was something. I will always remember this, I think. And that's pretty cool. Yeah. So Langeveen is cool as well. Like we rode in Kroll Bay. It's pretty chill. Like the spot is very easy. It's really flat. It's really like the wind is...

pretty okay. I mean, it can be very strong, but you will always get wind. Like even if it's, you feel like it's eight knots, it's not eight, it's more likely 12 and you can always wing. Like it's crazy. You will always get to wing. And so we got some 40 knots day where, in which I used a 1 .8, which is like,

boy. Little kitty wing. The thing is a tissue, it's so small. But it was so nice. I was like, whoa, how can I ride with that? I mean, I come from R6, I had an 8 .5 Neil Pryde racing winter wheel. 15 feet tall. And now I had a tiny Neil Pryde 1 .8. And I was like, what's happening to me? Yeah.

Luc Moore (01:09:14.83)
And so, yeah, was it was it twitchy? Like, how does a one point? Because I know when you get into like a three meter windsurf sail, for example, yeah, like it gets a little bit twitchy, right. But how's a one point eight? That would be so fun to ride. Well, a one point eight is really. Yeah, it's really weird. I mean, at first, when you grab it for like. Is this a toy like is it even going to lift me? Because I mean, one point eight square meters is like.

You don't have to say petite. The span of the wing would be smaller than me almost or my size. I mean, never happens. Like I have a picture of the wing. It looks like a toy. And in the end, it was super fun. Like I think I had a, I might have played safe and put an 800 foil. So I mean, it's not as if it was a big foil.

but still bigger than a 600, but it was really fun. It's so reactive. You really have to pay attention to how you use it because you have to be careful with your...

You don't have to pull too hard on the thing. I mean, you really have to pay attention how far you go in your movements and how, like, you really have to focus on how to put the wind into the wing because it will not compensate because it's small. So it's whether you use it completely, whether it's not working because it's so small.

that it will not get the wing slightly on the side, which will make you fly. So no, so you really have to be focused on that. But in the end, the wind was so strong that it was really okay. Like it was, it was as, as using a 2 .5 when it's, you know, and the wind is strong. So it didn't feel weird. It was just easy. You can do whatever you want with it. You can just dance around, you know? And it was, yeah, super fun. I was like,

Luc Moore (01:11:35.214)
1 .8, I'm getting this at home now. Yeah. Use it in your like 30, 35 knot days. Yeah, even more, I think. Because 35, I'm still using a 2 .5 and can go up to 45. Well, so you're looking at... Not being comfortable, I'm not being comfortable. Yeah, so you're looking at 45 plus knots. Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. What...

tour stops are you looking forward to this year? All of them. I will be on the GWA freestyle in Slalom. So that makes me less stop this year than the previous. But I think I will get the opportunity to focus more on quality because last year I was doing Slalom.

Freestyle and racing. So it was pretty intense to balance everything because you know, I have to go to school at some point as well. So yeah, I basically had to move around every 10 days and for 10 days. So I spent my time doing.

and unpacking my suitcase and my board bags and so it was pretty intense but really happy with how it turned out. I mean I didn't know if I would actually like make it more into school wise. I wasn't sure if I could make it to handle all of this and in the end turned out pretty well so happy about it.

And, but I still wanted, you know, to focus on something and to have time to train. Because if you move around every 10 days for 10 days, then you just compete basically. So now I'm really happy that I focused on something and so that I get more quality time. I can train at home more. I can go around a little bit around my home a little bit more because I.

Luc Moore (01:13:55.566)
I have some more time to spend. I don't have to think every minute about catching up with school and, and still being nervous because I'm not training. And so I feel like this year is going to be more balanced and I hope that that's the way to, for me to improve on my both freestyle and slalom. So yeah, I really hope I can make it.

For the stop, I like, well, I guess it's an unpopular opinion, but I like Mont Giale du Vent because it's at home. So, I mean, the spot kind of looks like my home spot. Like it's really gusty. Well, not as shifty as my home, but still it's pretty gusty and it's something that I...

Kind of enjoy, sorry to say. Everybody else is like, what? I swear. No, it's something that makes me feel like home. So, and my grandparents are around. So when I go at their home, then I can easily move around Lecattes, Perpignan, Barcares, which are some very, very south spots of France.

And so, yeah, that's why I feel... I guess I like this one because it makes me feel like home. And then I really love Brazil. Like it's really some... a place that I got to go already twice. No, even three times because last year I went to Taíba, then came back in France, then went back to Geri because I had some exams in the middle.

So I had to come back. But this year I had the luck to stay and it was just an amazing experience. We talked about it already, but it's really something very enjoyable to just be around there. Sunsets, Acai. I was going to ask you. Yeah, my buddy lived, he went to Rio.

Luc Moore (01:16:24.59)
must've been five, six years ago. And he said he has never had a better essay. Like we tried one in San Francisco when we were driving through and he said, I had never had a better one than in Rio or in Brazil. So they were phenomenal. It's impossible to find like to find this as good as they're like there. It's just so good. And it's like so refreshing and you know, you need to be refreshed because there it's kind of, it's kind of warm and.

I don't know if it's moist really, but you're like sticky from sunscreen and the water and you're just like, you have your acai and then you're good to go. Like, you know, it's the best thing. I swear I could eat this only. It's like so, so good. Like for my three weeks of Brazil, I've eaten one every day. Yeah. it's really good. awesome. Awesome.

So I guess you got a pretty fun year coming up. When's the next event that you're taking off to? Next event is actually Mondial Vivant. So then we go full Sen, I think. We have Le Cad, then we have Tarifa, and then Le Défi, which is really intense. It's really one of the... Like you go to this kind of competitions pretty relaxed because it's like, you know, parties and...

It's like Le Défi, it's really known for big parties and big like, community time. Like, you spend time with other riders and stuff, but in the end you, you wind up doing, I don't know, eight, 60 kilometers a day. If not, I think it's even way more because I think it's like maximum three times. No, it can be, it can be 120.

So like maximum is 120, I think a day and you come out from there and you're just like exhausted. Like really, you're so, so tired from your day. Like your quads and your, basically all your legs are hurting as hell because you just pushed so much into it to...

Luc Moore (01:18:45.934)
control the foil for 40 kilometers a race and in 40 knots. So yeah, that was really intense, but I really like it. Like it's really fun because you get there and you tell yourself, okay, like we're 250 at the start line, but during the race, you imagine you're going to be pretty alone because you know, speed, like there's some difference in speed between everyone and stuff.

And in the end, you end up racing 40 kilometers, three meters, like surrounded by like tons of other riders. And you're so close. Like it's really like you race with three people in the end. Like you have your, you have your little buddies for the race and then you change race. Maybe you change buddies or not because you have the same speed. So yeah, it's pretty. Yeah.

This one is really funny and I think people should try the Defi at least once because it's really something like it's, it's a full time experience. Yeah. I think, cause I remember seeing it back when it was more windsurfing and I had never seen so many windsurf sales packed in one little inner bead. Like, wow, the video looked phenomenal. Yeah. And imagine being the, the starting boats, like the rabbit, the rabbit start, like the rabbit boat.

It must be insane to like see people coming towards you full speed and being like, okay, I'm literally... We're gonna mess up. Yeah. Imagine like you're literally controlling everyone's life. You have everyone's life in your boat, in your time. Well, hey, that's going to be a pretty fun year then. Yeah, yeah, really. I'm looking forward. Is there anything else you want to touch on?

Well, I guess we covered a lot. Noel, a little shout out to your sponsor, I guess they've been a pretty good team member for you to help you do a lot of this. Yeah, I mean, without them, nothing would be possible. So it's really I really am really, really thankful for them to power this adventure because it's really like.

Luc Moore (01:21:11.406)
I would never have expected to be living something like that. I'm grateful that I'm here living that at this moment. It's really something I never believed would happen. It's something that I looked at with my little kid's eyes and saying, my God, this looks so fun.

And because, you know, Neil Fried also have some superstars team writer like Antoine Albault, Sarah Kita and this kind of like, I mean, these are some legends, you know? And I was just looking at them and I was like, like, because Antoine Albault is French, so it's really someone that we got to know and that I met a couple times in regattas and Sarah Kita would...

was coming to Bonaire sometimes when I was there and I was just looking at her and I was like, wow, this woman, she's a rock star. Like she's good in everything. She's winning everything. And it's so impressive and she's so nice and she's just so relaxed, you know, and traveling around. And I was like, whoa, like I aspire to be like her, you know?

And without JP and Nail Pride would never have been possible to get closer to this kind of dream. So yeah, I'm really thankful for them to have trusted me in this kind of adventure. And I'm really, I hope that we can make, that I can make them proud this year. I guess, I guess they were happy with my result last year, but I hope that I...

get to do it again and even better, I hope. And yeah, we'll be pushing for that. And yeah, I'm really thankful. So thank you, JP and your pride for your help and your support and for the gear because how gear oriented sport it's becoming. And I'm really grateful that I get to win with so good equipment.

Luc Moore (01:23:34.158)
Like, you know, Nail Pride and JP, they have always been known for their sense of detail. Like, they would always have the little thing that would make the experience more enjoyable. Like, I don't know, the booms, the shapes were very...

thoughtful in terms of, you know, the, it was very comfortable to handle it. And for the fly, the handles, the shape is really particular, but it makes it so much more comfortable to ride because it's directly in the good position. Like it's, it's just made for, for winging good, you know, it's just already set up and.

So I really appreciate working with them because it's like so easy and so like easy going like air and it's really nice to help. Like I hope that I can help them develop the gear in this direction as well. So yeah. I don't see why not. Well, coming from your dad's background and your family's background and then you learning, I think you're a perfect piece because it's not often that you can find like an

an elite level athlete pushing your boundaries, but then also coming with that kind of technical, cause I've talked to a lot of people and testing is really, really difficult. Cause you have to, you have to approach it exactly like you were saying before, and if you don't, if it's just a feeling. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, and it's really hard to put it into work actually, because it's.

It's not very often that you will get the perfect wind that will not change. Just two wings before the different. And so, but yeah, I guess I have the, the, well, I know how I actually know how we should put it into work. So, so yeah, I guess, I guess that's something that can help to give feedback.

Luc Moore (01:25:54.318)
work properly, let's say. So what's your favorite, before we wrap up, what's your favorite setup for windsurf? Cause I want to know, cause I still so in surf and then also for wind surfing. Well, and popular opinion as well. I love my RS6. I really loved it. Like, okay. It's, it's a little bit of love hate relationship because the gear is so big.

that you are struggling, you're always struggling, like the thing is super heavy and like, but it was so good. Like I really loved it. And so it's Nail Pride. So I'm okay. Like the answer is correct. But no, on real gear, I really love the combat. Like it's, I have a few combats. I have a...

I have one from 2016 and I have one from 2018, I guess. And I tried some quite recently actually. And it's really like my go -to sale because it's really maneuverable. Like it's quite like it's performance, but it's still easy to approach. Like the wave gear is...

normally quite understandable. As the freestyle gear, sometimes it's harder to rig it, actually, to rig it properly. Because, for example, the Wizard, I tried it a few times and as I'm not a freestyler, like I'm not a windsurf freestyler, I didn't really know how to make it, how tight to make it at the boom.

And it was changing quite a lot because you have to keep some power, like to keep it a little bit loose, but not too much. So that's why I would go for the combat because it's really easy to put a windsurfing shape and it's good. So yeah, I knew how to make it work. And I had the freestyle wave.

Luc Moore (01:28:15.47)
in 86. So 86 is pretty easy, not too small. I mean, I think I could go smaller, but at least this way I was comfortable in every type of conditions. And it was a freestyle wave is actually, well, can be pretty fast. So I was having fun going fast. I had fun carving and trying to write some waves.

And yeah, so that's my favorite setup for windsurfing and wing foiling. For the wing, I would say the Fly 2 Pro because it's made with Alula on the leading edge and the strut as well. And it's really stiff and it's really comfortable and it has a lot of power. You can easily go on smaller wings to ride normally.

And it's really enjoyable to have this power because if you go in smaller wings, then you're comfortable with the size, you know, like it's not too, the span is not too big because you can take half a meter down. So I like that about this one. And it's really for racing, it's perfect. Like for reaching, it's really, really fast for reaching. And...

Yeah. So I really liked that because it's so fast. Never tried it in freestyle though. But Vinnie told me it's really good for freestyle. But I mean, I must admit I'm a little bit of a, like I can learn sketchy things. So I want to preserve them for racing. That's my priority. And for the board, my favorite one.

hesitating because I really love the F -Winger. That's the 55 liter, the pink board. Well, I love it. I love it because the shape is really well done and I love pink. So like my wings are pink. My board is pink. My helmet is pink. I'm a pink person. And so I'm really glad that this setup is open.

Luc Moore (01:30:39.726)
No, but the F is really nice. Like the shape is so comfortable. Like it's, it has some volume, but not too much. And it's, it's pretty like the design is really well done, I guess. And it's like, like, yeah, this, so in my club where it's a super gusty, like where you can get five notes or 25, it makes it even more easy. Like it's, it makes it.

a lot more comfortable, let's say, because you can, yeah, you, you can adapt. Like if you drop the flight, then it's still okay because the board is pretty good in light wind. So you can take off easily and it's really easy to take off and it has some volume. Like I'm 55 kilos. So I'm, I'm, I'm okay on this one. It's my go -to board. This one is my go -to board. Like it's my.

My four, my four, four, how do we say four drive wheel? four wheel drive. Yeah. Four wheel drive you mean? Yeah. What is it again? And so yeah, that's, that's my go -to board. And I also love the S -winger because recently I've, have been playing in the waves a little bit more.

And so it's really nice, like this one is a lot more radical. So it's really nice in the waves because you can really engage more your turns and stuff. And well, you can still do it on the F -winger, but I'm quite small. So I feel more comfortable to have it like to have the S because it's, yeah, it's really, you know, it's a little surfboard under your.

I have it in 45 liters. So it's still okay for me. Like it's just minus 10 liters. Yeah, it's really nice. I also use it for freestyle, even though like, you know, it's a surf, like it's surf orientated. So it has a little bit of nose down for the, for the, to make the curves a little bit more aggressive.

Luc Moore (01:33:00.334)
And so I like to use it as well in freestyle and jumps. And yeah, it's my, let's say it's my, my toy board. It's like the one I used to play. So yeah. And then foil? And the foil, my favorite is the 600 Glide Swift, which is like it's...

It's, it's, I guess it's a medium max aspect. Like it's, but the shape makes it really easygoing. Like you can push it and go fast. You can use it and play in the waves. You can use it for freestyle. Like it's, it's my, clearly my go -to foil as well. And it's like, it's really trustworthy. Like in the waves, it will not,

Like it will not lose power and you know, drop. surprisingly, like, you, you know what to expect. It's a foil that it's really, yeah, you can really be comfortable on it. And when you have it, like when you are used to it, it becomes like, it's your legs, like it's the, it's your new leg. It's like going around and it's, it's, it's, it's your.

Yeah, it's part of you. Yeah, really easy and still really performant. The compromise is perfect to me. Good to know. I haven't written Neil Pride yet, but I'm going to have to try some of them. So that's pretty cool. Hey, thanks for sharing all that. You're welcome. I mean, thanks for having me and to talk about it.

Absolutely. So what time is it? What is it? Almost two o 'clock Eastern here. So it's three, four, five, six, seven. Is it eight o 'clock over there? No, six, 47. Six, 47? Okay. Yeah. Do you have any plans for the evening? Working and then dinner with my family. But I think I'll just have to catch up a little bit of work before. Okay.

Luc Moore (01:35:16.014)
Well, cool. Hey, thanks for joining us on the show today, Sharon, a lot. It was great to meet you and get to talk to you a little bit more. And we're going to look forward to seeing how this year goes for you. We really hope that that it goes exactly how we have planned. So I hope it goes well. I hope too. Thank you for having me. It was a real pleasure to talk about all of this. And yeah, thank you so much. It was a really cool experience. Hey, you're welcome. Nice. We'll have to have you back on. So.

And everybody at home, thanks for tuning in and we will catch you next time.